Virtual Stockjudging - Duffryn Herd

Denise · Post by **Denise** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:27 pm

Hi Clive, yup thanks thats it.

Stephanie - you think of the number of cattle Beryl registered over the years - my goodness - no wonder she ended up having to have several of the same name!!!!

I have had trouble naming all my pups over the years - keep running out of suitable names.

Phillipa and I visited the farm, and I took a short video of the paddocks before I returned to Oz - which I have to send to Marg sometime!!!

domsmith · Post by **domsmith** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:28 pm

We have the debate about horns regular. i am careful how i mix them, i have had no incidents at all. i like them with horns but in reality no one else seems to.

Mixing bulls, the 2 in the photo have never been together. but the dexter and a young angus were brought up together and i will put them back together for winter.
i seem to see bulls together at many farms, with no females and major size difference why would they fight?

dom

wagra dexters · Post by **wagra dexters** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:41 am

Clive, this is the back end of Clansman. In his defence, he is long-leg and not yet 3yo.
Margaret

wagra dexters · Post by **wagra dexters** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:58 am

And Happy Birthday to you also, Stephanie!!

Broomcroft · Post by **Broomcroft** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:41 am

Here's my little black bull No 76. It's the only photo I've got. I'll try and get some more but he's with 30 steers at the moment and he always stays in the middle of the group. He was 2 years old in this photo.

I haven't got an image of his pedigree but's here's his dam's after who he takes. It's a bit blurred! His dam is dun, sire was red and he's black. He's produced black and two dun bull calves so far, one of which I have kept entire. I put him back to his mom to get that calf and it may have worked, I'll try and get photos of the little dun bull.

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Broomcroft · Post by **Broomcroft** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:53 am

PS. I think I ought to add that the fence at the back is 5'6" high :D :D

wagra dexters · Post by **wagra dexters** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:48 pm

A handsome fellow Clive. Which red bull is he by? Interesting pedigree. So far as I know, Beryl didn't have any of the G or Z female lines left in her herd for quite some years. The Z goes back to Exeter Zephyr, but I don't know the G line at all. I will have to look it up tomorrow.

I would love to see that video, Denise.

Margaret

Broomcroft · Post by **Broomcroft** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:51 am

Hi Margaret, His sire was Moonshine Joseph. Not the right type of bull at all for this type of breeding so say the least, so the black bull is a throwback on the female line I feel. That's why I used him to try and fix his traits. He is very slow growing, doesn't seemed to have changed much in last 18 months. He'd be good for my heifers next year.

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wagra dexters · Post by **wagra dexters** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:38 am

Clive, as this topic is 'virtual stock judging' I will pass judgement on our Clansman, and say that even though he attracts lots of attention from the local beef breeders, and has a wonderful temperament, he was never a heifer bull. Even though he is still only 110cm tall, he was a heavy bully bull very early.
As we will shortly be desperate for a heifer bull, perhaps we could swap?
Margaret

Saffy · Post by **Saffy** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:41 am

You have a very pretty herd Dom - I like Blossom best, nice even udder and she looks a sweetie! :D They have lovely horns - although I do still prefer to dehorn mine.

A lovely chunky bull there Clive I agree with Margaret a hansome fellow.

Stephanie

Bridgehouse · Post by **Bridgehouse** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:43 pm

Referring to the question of putting two bulls together, our neighbours simmental bull got through the fence into our (I think Limousin) bull at the time. It was a field of 100 milking cows. When the herdsman went to fetch the cows he found our bull with a broken leg.

Last year my Dexter bull had a friesian bull jump over the fence in with him and the cows, apparently they did a lap of the field and the friesian bull jumped straight back out! I don't know what he therefore thought of a Dexter cow as I am sure it was not my 15 months old bull that freightened him off! I did have to wait for nine months though to be sure it wasn't JUST a lap of the field he did!

Mark

Minnie · Post by **Minnie** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:35 am

Hi Clive,

I'm with Margaret and Stephanie - very handsome fellow.

Hi Mark,

A dexter bull we had here, got into a fight with the next doors brahman, he flipped the brahman on his back and rolled him down the lane (they were in the lane at the time), the brahman did get up and push the dexter through a fence but didn't hurt him, at which time they broke it up and Phil brought him home.

That same bull beat up the Tuli bull on the other side as well.

He was the quietest bull with a lovely disposition but not with bulls. :laugh:

Vicki

Broomcroft · Post by **Broomcroft** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:23 am

I will measure my bull when he's in next Margaret. I guess he'd be about 110cm but I could be out on that. He was also exceptionally chunky from day one, very much like the pictures you have posted Stephanie in the past of some of your calves, really deep-bodied. More deep-modied than my Angus-Dexter crosses actually.

I've had two dexter bulls fight when I ran them past a field of heifers, BIG mistake. They locked invisible horns for about an hour till they were both totally worn out. I tried everything to get them apart, but it was like I wasn't there. They were very equal in size and age and had been together from birth without any sign of aggression.

wagra dexters · Post by **wagra dexters** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:37 am

Fighting bulls are dangerous. Even if they are only 'arm-wrestling', they don't know where you are. These two tested each other over a feed trough recently, in a large paddock, so I got in the ute to be out of their way. They accidentally bashed the front panel in so I couldn't open the drivers door. When they called it a draw, I got out the other door, and you'd swear they were cuddly kittens.

We had no challenges when we ran younger bulls with an old mature bull. We kept our original bull well into his teens, so he out-stayed 3 junior bulls, with no arguments. Running steers with them off-season allows for the dynamics of a herd structure.

Margaret

Broomcroft · Post by **Broomcroft** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:36 pm

Here's a few photos from our farm:

This is Rosehip (Dexter), she is nearly 14...Rosehip has been eating too much me thinks!

This is Beaver, heavily Woodmagic, with her 4 month old calf, both Dexter. The calf is linebred by putting Beaver to her son. The result was good in that he has possibly the best beef carcass I have ever had on the farm, but he was very vocal, so he was sadly steered yesterday! Can't be doing with that!

Here's a Dangus heifer at about 4 months. Her dam is an exceptionally chunky Dexter.

This is a Dangus steer whose his dam is about 75% Woodmagic:

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