Stud Book - Purchasing

nz dexter · Post by **nz dexter** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:28 am

I would like to purchase an English stud/herd book. I am very interested in researching pedigrees but having such a hard time that the easiest way I think would be to purchase one for myself. Does the Society sell them? Are they all in one volumn or they in several? I'm particularly interested in the old bloodlines. Or does any one have any 2nd hand ones that they would sell. Quite keen on American and Canadian ones too.

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:55 am

Hi; In Canada herd books are available though the association, (society) contact Ron Black at ron.black@clrc.ca, I'm not sure the price for non Cdn members but he will definately know, cheers, Liz

Duncan MacIntyre · Post by **Duncan MacIntyre** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:18 am

In UK DCS may have some back issues of herdbooks but I don't think they keep large numbers and may not go back very far for sale. Past herdbooks don't seem to appear for sale very often.
Your best option may be to purchase the Ped-eView discs from Grassroots systems.

Duncan

nz dexter · Post by **nz dexter** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:36 am

Does the ped-e view go right back to the very early days? Duncan did I see you in the book by Ted Neal?

Duncan MacIntyre · Post by **Duncan MacIntyre** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:03 pm

Hello NZ Dexter,

sadly pedeView does not go all the way back, I think it varies in different lines, but having said that it may be better than waiting to get all the herd books. It has the advantage of being able to display the 4 generation pedigree of any animal on the system rather than you having to work back through registrations in a book or books. Basically every herd book only covers one year, so by the time you search for the pedigree of any one animal you may be looking at over 20 different volumes.

There are hand copied lists taken from the herd books back to 1900 and I am wondering if it would be feasable to put data from that into a computer database but it would take many many hours to do.

Yes I have been exposed by Ted Neal, at times I feel very conspicuous on this discussion board, why do so many members need to be so anonymous? Have you always been called NZ, and is Dexter your surname? :D

Martin · Post by **Martin** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:17 pm

Well said Duncan,
I do not know why some people have to be anonymous, I thought this was a forum for discussion and exchange of veiws, not a secret society.

Duncan MacIntyre · Post by **Duncan MacIntyre** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:42 pm

Martin who??

nz dexter · Post by **nz dexter** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:17 am

hmm not trying to be anon, just thought that I would distinguish the country that I came for NZ = New Zealand

Martin · Post by **Martin** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:39 pm

Hi Duncan,
My surname is Wilson & my herd prefix is Medway Valley, I live in a small village between Maidstone & Chatham in Kent, I posted this in my profile but someone chose not to make it public knowledge. I do not wish to be anonymous.
Don't worry about standing out Duncan, I for one respect your views experience & knowledge. This forum would not be the same without you.

ann · Post by **ann** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:03 pm

Duncan MacIntyre wrote:Martin who??

Hi Duncan

I guess a lot of us are guilty of not updating our profiles, so as I am not afraind to put my name on any of my posts, I have updated my profile today

:p :p :p

Duncan MacIntyre · Post by **Duncan MacIntyre** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:33 pm

Hello Folks,

I was really more in mischief making mode than deadly serious, and realise that not everyone is happy about their identity being braodcast on internet. Maybe I even knew what NZ stood for! But sometimes it is much easier responding to a post if the identity and/or relevant circumstances of the person are.

Duncan

nz dexter · Post by **nz dexter** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:22 am

Seen people are getting on the bandwagon about being anon I thought I would try to change my registered name, but cannot find how to. So I will introduce myself as Elisha Armstrong, from New Zealand. I have only a small herd 5 mature girls, 2 yearling girls and 4 heifer calves and 2 bull calves (soon to be steers). Only 2 are pure bred the rest are mostly 7/8ths Dexter. I could not afford pure Dexters as they were very expensive when I started as I was still in school so I began with a 1/2 bred and went from there.

Inger · Post by **Inger** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:04 am

If you do end up getting the UK Herd Book on CD Elisha, could I get some help from you sometime in the future, when you've done your research, in working on some gaps I have in my cows pedigrees? I looked into getting the PedeView CDs, but they and the software from Grassroots, to run them with, added up to a lot of money. Actually I think Peter (our Herd Registrar) may have a copy of the books. Not sure, but I think He said something about having them. You don't suppose He would let us lend a volume do you?

nz dexter · Post by **nz dexter** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:51 am

Hmm I wonder, but if they are expensive he may not. I used to live not too far from him too, but I shifted then he has too. I would really like the paper edition but it sounds like I have to purchase lots of them. I like our one here in NZ. Last year a complete volumn was put out. I have used it loads and loads.

Inger · Post by **Inger** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:04 am

Yes, but ours is a simpler version. We don't list how many animals each breeder has ect, and our list of animals doesn't go back a few hundred years. So its easier for us. It would be so good to have it on-line. I would mind paying a yearly subscription to use it.