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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:38 pm
by Tim Watson
I expect most of you have done this but if anyone is interested I have just created these as Excel spreadsheets. Animal Health said I could do this to save the cost of the books as long as I kept hard copies for them.
If anyone wants the files send me a pm and I will email them through to you.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:33 pm
by Saffy
What a good idea!
Stephanie
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:48 am
by natmadaboutdexters
My husband also keeps out movement records on the computer and can print off a hard copy. When the inspector came he still insisted that I fill in the yellow movement book! My husband was not impressed! He had already checked with them but obviously each inspector has his own views.
Natasha 
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:29 am
by Tim Watson
Oh Dear that doesn't sound promising. It was the man from AH in Exeter who visited me, told me I could do it and then sent me the sheets to recreate in Excel!
I may be a little 'bottom lippy' if the men from the ministry want it another way 
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:03 am
by Louisa Gidney
I downloaded a PDF of the cattle movement book from the DEFRA website. I shall print out a hard copy when I reach the final page of my current book.
As the archetypal IT dinosaur, if I could manage to do this, then I'm sure everyone else can.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:35 am
by davidw
If you check DEFRA's website, it states clearly that movement records can be paper or computer based. However, the EU legislation (regulation 911/2004) states that an inspector must sign the register when he/she visits to check it. To me that says, you can keep the register electronically, but keep a hard copy.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:27 pm
by davidw
I've just dug a little further. EU regulations (Reg 1760/2000) also state that the herd record book can be electronic or paper based, and a copy should be kept for a minimum of 3 years. Typical of DEFRA who tend to gold plate everything, they require that records are kept for 10 years.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:20 pm
by Broomcroft
We keep all our records on the computer and have regular inspections with no problem. We did find I had quite a few movement records missing and the inspector helped me fill in the missing details.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:45 pm
by carole
I can't be the only one who finds having to keep paper copies of movements outdated. The BCMS electronic system is brilliant, easy to use and I can filter my animals in all sorts of ways so that I can list them according to age, sex, tag no, favourite food, eye colour etc etc (o.k some of those filters may still be in development). I do appreciate that not everyone has access to the internet but for those who do why are we having to duplicate information.
NB just incase BB is watching I do dig out my quill and parchment to record movements . I only wish there was a similar system for medicine records, I may be opening a huge can of worms here but as it is a legal duty to keep such records then surely in the case of an outbreak of something nasty or a dodgy batch of something the powers that be would then have an efficient way of contacting everyone concerned.
By the way Tim I wish I had thought of putting the movements as a spreadsheet, I used a word doc which at best is a little clumsy.