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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:41 pm
by LISA
If you go to a previous Melton link to download the catalogue, these are the sale results. My abbreviations are NS=NOT SOLD
NF=NOT FORWARD
FI=FAILED INSPECTION
LOT 78-NF
LOT 78A-SORRY i DON'T KNOW PRICE
LOT 78B-NF
LOT78C-NF
LOT 79-580GNS
LOT 79A FI 350NS
LOT79B 350NS
LOT81 NF
LOT 82 980GNS
LOT 83 1,200GNS (RESERVE BREED CHAMPION)
LOT84 760GNS NS
LOT 85 270GNS
LOT 86 NF
LOT 87 2,950GNS (TOP PRICE)
LOT 87A NF
LOT 88 700NS
LOT 89 500GNS
LOT 89A SORRY I DON'T KNOW PRICE
LOT 89B DITTO
LOT 90 970GNS (BREED CHAMPION)
LOT 91 NF
LOT 92 FI 210NS
LOT 93 FI 330NS
LOT 94 330NS
LOT95 350NS
LOT96 NF
LOT97 560GNS
LOT 98 200GNS
LOT99 760GNS
LOT 100 300GNS
LOT101 520GNS
LOT 102NF
LOT103 190GNS
LOT104 240NS
LOT105 490GNS
LOT106 310GNS
LOT107 330GNS
LOT108 340NS
LOT109 320NS
LOT110 360NS
LOT111 NF
LOTS 112 113 114 ALL NF
LOT115 340GNS
LOT116 240NS
LOT117 370GNS
LOT118 380GNS
LOT119 330GNS
BULLS
LOT120 NF
LOT121 440NS
LOT 122 1118NS
LOT123 400GNS
LOT124 350NS
LOT125 ?NS
LOT126 900NS
LOT127 900GNS (TOP PRICE BULL)
LOT128 720GNS
LOT 129 410GNS
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:19 pm
by redhill
with the minute % actually sold it has to be ask is it now time we discontinued this sale. Bill
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:04 am
by Bridgehouse
Hi
I think more than half did sell. Where it says GNS means it did sell in guineas. Perhaps there has been a misunderstanding that gns was not sold. It was a very enjoyable day out.
Mark
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:18 am
by SteveM
Minor correction to the prices given by Lisa.
Lot 107 was not sold, bid price was £430.
Now remaining in the herd.
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:23 am
by Broomcroft
What does 330NS mean for example?
Edited By Broomcroft on 1252826622
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:24 am
by Bridgehouse
I believe it means the bidding got to 330 but then was not agreed as a sale.
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:27 am
by Mark Bowles
Congratulations to Lisa and Philip Bell, they get just reward for the time and effort they put in to present and promote their cattle. It does go to show what is achievable if you just try.
Prices were variable i would say, good prices for the show winners, reasonable prices for most of the rest.
I thought the quality overall was very good, very pleasing, although some cattle failed inspection i think ( not sure) they made reasonable money. There were no givaways but there were some bargains, thats what i thought anyway.
I was there for the 2 days and enjoyed it greatly, it is to be recommended as a day out.
Thanks to Veronica Schofield for judging, not an easy task, Steve Adcock and Mick Oliphant for inspecting, also not an easy task, and finally many thanks to Carolanne Raybould for the organisation and stewarding, definately not an easy task.
By the way the dexter champion won reserve interbreed champion out of 5 breeds forward, another dexter plus point.
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:46 am
by natmadaboutdexters
The auctioneer seemed to struggle to get the bidding started on a lot of the cattle not just the Dexters. It was a shame that quite a few seemed to reach a good price but the owners would not let them go for that amount. Can't say too much as I think we paid the second highest price of the day for the Reserve Breed champion who I discovered this morning knows exactly what a black plastic bucket represents! Great two days out and well worth it for us! 
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:30 pm
by clacko
i thought there were animals thier to suit everyones pocket, i wasn't really looking to buy as we are light on grass, but if we had had a normal late summer early autumn weather wise, then i would have gone for two or three more hiefers, in general i thought prices were down on last year but i also saw a few lots go home when they had made resnoble money(in my mind) maybe the owners just want that bit more, but in comparison to the other breeds that sold on the day, the dexters did do well. paul
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:07 pm
by Broomcroft
Compared to current general market conditions, the prices look very low. Just good breeding heifers are going for over £2000 at our local market, not pedigree, just for farming. Calves are going for hundreds at 20-25 days old. I'm astonished at the bull prices especially when you think what goes into raising one and the costs involved.
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:45 pm
by redhill
by my reckoning there were a good deal more than 50% of those entered that either did not sell or were not forward and if as suggested the Dexters did best of the breeds there I still wonder if it is worth having a sale in future.
I note Clives point there were only about 7 animals that made a value that you could realistically expect to get for them as beef.
Bill.
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:24 pm
by jeanthomas
Sorry Clive, you have lost me here, do you mean good breeding Dexter heifers are making 2000 in your local market? If so I probably need to move? ???
jean
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:53 pm
by tooloos
We were at Melton yesterday, and saw some very good cattle and some mediocre. As always the good stuff sells to whoever has the biigest wallet and the rest have a realistic price. If the reserve is to high you will end up taking them home. Although some of the un sold lots look to be getting to good prices it was obvious the auctioneer was running them up, some got close to the reserve and the auctioneer gave the vendor the option of selling or not. Some took the offer others took them home. Having also been at the Knightsway sale and seen the prices there, Melton was reallity.
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:02 pm
by Broomcroft
No, not Dexters Jean, otherwise I'd have sold all mine :D, only joking. They will be continentals, possibly Hereford, Angus, Simmental etc. Prices are between £1500 and £2500 for a bulling heifer. Ewes have been fetching nearly £150 each, not pedigree, just breeding sheep at the market! I've sold fat lambs this year for nearly £100 at 42kg.
To put it in Dexter context though, I wouldn't sell a 12 month old heifer for anything less than £4-500 depending upon the size. That's because she'll be worth between £600 and £750 (net of costs) in a years time and won't even need feeding except 4 large bales of hay over winter, greedy little devil. A 12 month old steer would be about 15-20% more. If you sell direct the beef could be getting on for a value of £1,800 but then you have the costs. Unless I misunderstand the prices, it doesn't make any sense. I think I'll give up breeding and just go around buying.
You could go to the national show and sale, buy bulls, take them home and beef them for sausages and pies and they'd make a profit! I don't understand farming economics, one year a bit ago there was loads of straw available, so the prices doubled!
Edited By Broomcroft on 1252865233
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:07 pm
by natmadaboutdexters
Continentals, Angus etc will always fetch high prices as beef because they finish better and are well fleshed compared to say Friesians which grade lower. We took two Dexter cows to market a couple of months ago and they made very poor money, okay they were over 30 months and only for pies/mincing. Who pays these high prices? markets or private restaurants etc.
Natasha