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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:08 pm
by DENIS
Does anyone consider that communication from our Society with Genus (or other AI companies) would encourage them to stock semen even if only a limited amount off a small number of bulls?
As Louise indicated there are consirable accumative costs attached to keeping private stock in their flasks.
Denis
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:24 pm
by Rutherford
Excellent idea, I think we should encourage the new Council when they are in place to try.
Beryl (Woodmagic)
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:13 pm
by DENIS
Unless I'm mistaken there is a bull on the Genus books now, (Knotting Saturn) see website (http://www.genusbreeding.co.uk/content. ... exter.mspx)
I'm not how much straws are etc. but it may be useful for anyone that does not have access to a bull.
Denis
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:48 am
by moomin
Hi Dennis,
Genus do sell Saturn of Knotting semen and they charge £20.00 a dose for it plus inseminators fees!!! You can buy it from Jane Paynter for £10.00 a dose plus a little for handling. Who in there right mind is going to buy from Genus?
Genus really do take people to the cleaners with their charges that is why I try and sell semen as cheaply as I can. I am happy if I can cover costs, make a small profit and improve the breed.
Di
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:33 pm
by Rutherford
A near monopoly only interested in their own profit. Have you any ideas Di, how to help the small breeder with only one or two cows to avoid excessive storage charges which can mount up?
Beryl (Woodmagic)
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:20 pm
by monica waltho
Not all AI companies charge for storage- we are in Staffordshire and use a company called R Breeders -they have had some of my Dexter semen (Butterbox Morris) in store for several years wth no charges I think they may do Shropshire/Cheshire possibly Derbyshire.The contact no I have is 07850 006870 I think they charge about £15/service and are always very helpful.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:11 am
by moomin
Beryl, the only way I can think of is for members to get together in an area which has the same Genus flask and share costs. The semen would have to be in one persons name with Genus BUT that person could have cows on different holdings couldn't they? This is what I did in the past for small herds round here. It was much easier when you could pay the inseminator cash at service - I don't know how the billing would work now as it is all direct debit, maybe an area group could work something out for its members, maybe do a deal with Genus. [Not easy!]
As Monica says there are small AI companies which are excellent if you have one near you. Phoenix breeders have Jupiter semen. Unfortunately most of the country is covered by Genus.
Di
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:46 pm
by Louise Badcock
Just as a rider to this thread, my offer to give away some semen turned out to be no good as Genus were going to charge me £50. This is more than the semen cost in the first place. so I have just had it destroyed. I will rely on a bull.
Louise