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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:26 pm
by Charlotte Brown
I am trying the AI for the first time for my small herd. How do you find out what the advertised bulls look like? There don't seem to be many photos in The Bulletin - how do you know he is the chap with the right looks for you?
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:03 am
by Duncan MacIntyre
Here is Ilsington Bramble in his prime, he was a bulldog carrier but otherwise a very good bull.
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:22 pm
by Charlotte Brown
Thank you for this Duncan.
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:46 am
by Rob R
Good point, I was looking for one of Outlaw for someone earlier, I must dig out the old AI booklet- the pictures weren't brilliant quality, but better than what's online.
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:05 am
by Kirk- Cascade Herd US
Cornahir Outlaw - He is on the pedigree of nearly every animal on our farm and he is a good example of a wild-type coloration (E+).
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:25 am
by Broomcroft
Would it be useful to have a central database of photographs of bulls on the web so that anyone at any time can take a look?
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:01 am
by Martin
Clive,
as most people can't take a good enough photo to use when their stock is for sale on this site I don't think you stand a chance!
Martin. Medway Valley Dexters.
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:35 am
by Issy
I have been recently looking for a new AI bull to use on my heifer as Ilsington Bramble is her dad and he is the one I usually use. I have settled on Apple Joe for her primarily as he is one of only a handful I could find details of on the web. It would be really useful if all the society bulls had details (height and quality's of offspring etc) with a pic easily accessible for us beginners.
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:24 pm
by Broomcroft
I wonder whether pics could be put on the details on the grassroots system? It would be highly unusual nowadays for any database application, which is what grassroots is, not to be able to do this, but the work is another matter.
Alternatively, a separate database of photos would be a doddle.
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:26 pm
by Rob R
Here's a page from the old AI guide that I've dug out, the pictures weren't good quality, but better than nothing.
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:49 am
by Woodmagic
If I were seeking a bull to use, the first thing I would look for is information on his dam. Half the genes he carries have to come from her, looking at him will give you very little idea of what they might be. I am not intending to breed a herd of bulls. My next step would be to try and discover the overall standard of his siblings - that should provide a guide as to the genes he may have collected from his sire. I want to know his breeding potential rather than what he may look like. I use a bull on the basis of what I hope he will throw.
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:14 pm
by Rob R
Woodmagic wrote:If I were seeking a bull to use, the first thing I would look for is information on his dam. Half the genes he carries have to come from her, looking at him will give you very little idea of what they might be. I am not intending to breed a herd of bulls. My next step would be to try and discover the overall standard of his siblings - that should provide a guide as to the genes he may have collected from his sire. I want to know his breeding potential rather than what he may look like. I use a bull on the basis of what I hope he will throw.
Good point, I've found the online herdbook very useful for doing the initial research on this
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:03 pm
by Inger
Rob, what's the name of Cornahir's son that you've pictured?
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:04 pm
by Rob R
Our bull; Rosewood Glenturret M4038