That damned bullock

Sylvia · Post by **Sylvia** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:56 pm

So, Shamba has been reprieved. I wonder, if he was so successfully isolated, how he caught TB in the first place?

And what of the other animals on their holding?

I hope that Skanda Vale loses any goodwill it might have gained by behaving in this selfish and stupid way in this TB hot spot.

I also hope that anyone else in this area who has a TB outbreak sues the Skanda Vale community for putting their animals and their business at risk.

It is a disgrace.

redhill · Post by **redhill** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:53 pm

Has it been confirmed that he has TB, .My information is that the case is being taken to appeal. Sue

Broomcroft · Post by **Broomcroft** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:48 am

Sylvia - If you live in the area perhaps you can help them out by offering to have him butchered and supplied back in packs. I'm sure they'd be pleased to have some local support. Then they wouldn't have to say goodbye to him, he'd still be around, in the freezer.

happy hollidays · Post by **happy hollidays** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:07 am

Sylvia can you use this to benefit your own situation at all? I nearly put a bet on the fact that he would not be put down, one rule for one and one rule for the others!! I do hope that the farming industry make a big issue about this as it is outrageous. Sorry, you must be a little more than fed up by now.

Jo Kemp · Post by **Jo Kemp** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:19 am

The court decided that this bullock was regarded in a different way to other bullocks so was trying not to set a presedent. I suppose we all would have to say our cattle were pets ... some are and for me, the killing of a bullock is OK but not one of my lovely cows!
How to work this to our advantage?
I have said for ages that we ought to contact the animal welfare organisations (which have such sway with this government) and try to work out a different control policy with them.
The obvious one, if it would work, would be to vaccinate cattle in the affected areas AND vaccinate as many badgers as possible. Both species are involved in spreading the disease so stop that and the rest of the country would remain relatively free of TB.
NFU works for the big guys so wouldn't like this but I really believe we need to meet RSPCA el all half way to get anywhere at all.
Am I being too simplistic?
Jo

John C · Post by **John C** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:06 am

Sylvia
You and a lot of other farmers have obviously been praying to the wrong God.

Sylvia · Post by **Sylvia** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:20 pm

Well, that lot claim to be multi faith which doesn't leave a lot of options really John C

Broomcroft · Post by **Broomcroft** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:32 pm

Thinking back to my basic legal training days, if the matter with the Hindu bull means he is allowed to live on, then that sets a precedent in law. I don't see there is anything to stop us declaring oursleves Hindus and using the same law.

I'm not sure whether I'm joking or not!

Kathy Millar · Post by **Kathy Millar** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:00 am

Don't go there, Clive. You'll have all the Dexters wanting one of those sweet little flower necklaces and face paint.... :D

Sylvia · Post by **Sylvia** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:25 am

It has already been suggested locally that we find a co-operative Hindu to bless all our cow sheds in this area (and most of us already worship our cattle) so we can all claim exactly the same treatment as them

Saffy · Post by **Saffy** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:34 am

Of course I aml looking for a prefix - how does Shamba sound to you - it has a certain ring to it don't you think! ???

Stephanie

Broomcroft · Post by **Broomcroft** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:49 pm

Go on Saffy, I dare you.

Duncan MacIntyre · Post by **Duncan MacIntyre** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:19 pm

No, No, No, don't even think about it. I am tired of people bringing in badly behaved alsatians and rottweilers called "Satan" or other such name. They just can't seem to control them and don't know why.

I am not superstitious, not at all?? but I would not like to think of the animal health consequences of calling all your animals after a TB infected bullock.

Have a good look at listed prefixes in the herd book, and try not to pick one which will be easily confused. The easy way is to pick farm name or village name, which is what we did, but not very imaginative. Or find a word associated with some characteristic of the breed or aspect of breeding which you find important, or just something which grabs attention. "Woodmagic" for example sounds intriguing even before we find out anything about the book called Woodmagic which inspired Beryl's choice.

Duncan

Saffy · Post by **Saffy** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:33 pm

I quite agree I, took on a rescued alsation
called "Rocky",changed its name to Ricky in hope of a change of behaviour, my wondeful vet offered that I take him there as often as possible to be weighed,(former owners had kindly starved him,)and be fed treats to try to get his opinion of vets up a notch. But 2 and a half years later he was still determined to attack ALL men but particularly vets, so with a very heavy heart I had him destroyed, ( the vet insisted I fill him with sedatives first, even he had given up on him,) although I live in the middle of nowhere I lived in fear of him getting out and attacking someone. So yes there is something in a name but also I think in the way a person giving that type of name will train....or not, their dog.

I was joking about the prefix as I am sure you realised and will probably go for the farm name Duffryn or the name my grandparents, parents and myself have used for our herds and flocks in the past Powellduffryn but having had to write it several times for 40+ frieian heifers a year, I may go for the short version unless it is already taken.

Sorry to digress everybody!

Stephanie

John C · Post by **John C** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:03 am

Just to refresh peoples memorys, when our two heifers arrived on our smallholding our 'nearly grown up' kids decided to call the horned one Mrs Satan and the polled one Satan and the names stuck.As a result, I reckon we nearly have a cult going here. Do you think we could apply for cult exemption ? :D